1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,200 Tonight on Fact or Fate, Paranormal Files. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:12,540 Former FBI agent Ben Hansen leads his group of investigators as they uncover the secrets 3 00:00:12,540 --> 00:00:17,920 behind the best and most baffling paranormal footage ever captured. 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:25,800 They'll break down every clip and put each case to the ultimate test. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,760 I think it could be easily manipulated. 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,760 As they try to recreate the world's most mysterious footage. 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:40,160 Through a series of incredible experiments using cutting-edge technology, they'll determine 8 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:46,440 once and for all if each case is fact or fate. 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Oh my god. 10 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,440 Oh my goodness. 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,440 There's a flying saucer. 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,440 I'm getting a series of lights right there. 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,440 Oh my god. 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,120 What the heck is happening? 15 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,120 Kill the lights. 16 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,120 My name's Ben Hansen. 17 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,120 Maintain silence unless you see something on camera. 18 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,120 I've been investigating the paranormal since I was 10 years old growing up in Utah. 19 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,620 I used to be in the FBI, but after I left the bureau, I took my paranormal investigations 20 00:01:43,620 --> 00:01:45,620 to the next level. 21 00:01:45,620 --> 00:01:49,620 Three years ago, I set up a team to join me in my search for the truth. 22 00:01:49,620 --> 00:01:54,620 When we evaluate the videos that are sent to us, we ask the following questions. 23 00:01:54,620 --> 00:01:56,620 Is the footage compelling? 24 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Is the witness credible? 25 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,800 And can we test it? 26 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Together with my team, we're out to solve whether these cases are fact or fate. 27 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,800 Okay guys, I'm excited about these clips. 28 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,800 I want to see what we've all brought to the table today. 29 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,800 All right guys, I got a really good video. 30 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,800 It's from Connecticut. 31 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,800 It's actually considered a ghost town. 32 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,800 It's most famous for its haunted forest. 33 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,800 He's claiming it's a ghost. 34 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,800 A ghost. 35 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:27,980 So I'm going to go ahead and show you the video and tell me what you guys think. 36 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:29,980 Okay. 37 00:02:29,980 --> 00:02:31,980 Okay, watch along the tree line. 38 00:02:35,980 --> 00:02:37,980 It's right there yet. 39 00:02:37,980 --> 00:02:39,980 Like a dark shadow. 40 00:02:39,980 --> 00:02:41,980 Did you see it? 41 00:02:41,980 --> 00:02:43,980 That's pretty good. 42 00:02:43,980 --> 00:02:46,980 He's a very, very light shadowy figure right there, right? 43 00:02:46,980 --> 00:02:48,980 No way. 44 00:02:48,980 --> 00:02:51,980 It almost looks like he has limbs when he crosses this section. 45 00:02:51,980 --> 00:02:53,980 Okay, wait one second. 46 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,160 That concerns me with this video is that this guy is all worked up. 47 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,160 You know, he's breathing heavily and it's almost like he's anticipating it to come out. 48 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,160 No. 49 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Why is that? 50 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,160 No way. 51 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Well, maybe he already saw it. 52 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:17,160 He went and grabbed his camera and then he, you know, was shooting and then it crossed again. 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,160 You would think that's how it would happen. 54 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,160 I can see a lot of CG in that video being a huge possibility. 55 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:24,340 I'm with Chilan. 56 00:03:24,340 --> 00:03:26,340 I think it's faked and I think it could be easily manipulated. 57 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:28,340 Okay, let's move on. 58 00:03:31,340 --> 00:03:33,340 How about Bill? What do you have? 59 00:03:33,340 --> 00:03:36,340 I've got an alien abduction case out of Florida. 60 00:03:36,340 --> 00:03:42,340 And this is a couple that have claimed that they've had alien visitations and abductions repeatedly. 61 00:03:42,340 --> 00:03:44,340 In this case, they got video. 62 00:03:44,340 --> 00:03:46,340 Okay, it's moving. 63 00:03:46,340 --> 00:03:48,340 So is this a surveillance camera? 64 00:03:48,340 --> 00:03:50,340 Yes, in their bedroom. 65 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Because that's where the visitations have been happening. 66 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,520 So they set up a surveillance cam in their room. 67 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,520 I see something walking in. 68 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,520 And this is a time lapse video. 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,520 So the frame rate is going to be stuttering. 70 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,520 Where is this set, Bill? 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Florida. It's not an alligator. 72 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,520 It doesn't look that clear. 73 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,520 And to me, it looks like it could be a kid. 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,520 Yeah. 75 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,520 I mean, it doesn't walk into the room completely. 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,520 It looks like it's just poking its head in and turning around or just staying there. 77 00:04:18,700 --> 00:04:20,700 Larry, what do you think of the video itself? 78 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:23,700 It's kind of unclear and it never fully enters the room. 79 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:26,700 I mean, it could be something on a broomstick that somebody's poking in there, you know? 80 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:31,700 I mean, the fact that we're discussing it so much, this is a really intriguing video. 81 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:33,700 I would love to investigate this. 82 00:04:33,700 --> 00:04:36,700 I want more background on these people, exactly what happened to them. 83 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:40,700 I personally say faked, but I say with more research, take it from there. 84 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:42,700 I don't want to completely throw this out for now. 85 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:44,700 Okay. 86 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:46,700 But at the same time, we don't have quite enough to work off of. 87 00:04:47,380 --> 00:04:49,380 So... 88 00:04:49,380 --> 00:04:52,380 All right, let me try to get a little more information on the family's background and the location 89 00:04:52,380 --> 00:04:55,380 and see if there are any other similar occurrences in the area. 90 00:04:58,380 --> 00:05:00,380 I have a ghost car. 91 00:05:00,380 --> 00:05:03,380 We have a ghost car in Savannah, Georgia, 92 00:05:03,380 --> 00:05:06,380 slightly outside in a town called Garden City. 93 00:05:06,380 --> 00:05:11,380 This tape was shot from a video camera mounted inside the police car. 94 00:05:11,380 --> 00:05:16,380 Now, he was pursuing a vehicle which was doing some very erratic maneuver. 95 00:05:17,060 --> 00:05:19,060 And it ends in a very strange way. 96 00:05:19,060 --> 00:05:21,060 Here you go. 97 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:23,060 It starts out like a normal pursuit. 98 00:05:23,060 --> 00:05:25,060 It turns into high speed. 99 00:05:25,060 --> 00:05:27,060 I mean, this guy is really clocking it. 100 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:31,060 And here he's swerving back and forth, kind of doing strange maneuvers. 101 00:05:33,060 --> 00:05:35,060 You know, he does this U-turn. 102 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:42,060 There's this point where the officer following him, you know, makes that U-turn, and he's far, far up ahead of him. 103 00:05:42,740 --> 00:05:47,740 A lot of people are saying that that's something extraordinary that the car takes off that quickly. 104 00:05:47,740 --> 00:05:49,740 Now, watch this part. 105 00:05:49,740 --> 00:05:51,740 He comes down the dirt road. 106 00:05:51,740 --> 00:05:53,740 The officer is still following pretty closely at this point. 107 00:05:53,740 --> 00:05:56,740 But you'll see as he turns left, he loses sight of him. 108 00:05:56,740 --> 00:05:58,740 Officer turns around, follows. 109 00:06:00,740 --> 00:06:02,740 Now he's on the other side of the fence. 110 00:06:02,740 --> 00:06:04,740 What? Wow. 111 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:06,740 You see him turn here. 112 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:08,740 This is in slow motion. 113 00:06:08,740 --> 00:06:10,740 He turns off to the left, hard left. 114 00:06:11,420 --> 00:06:15,420 And then he turns right around, and boom, the officer has to stop because there's a fence right in the way. 115 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:20,420 And the ghost car is on the other side of the fence. 116 00:06:20,420 --> 00:06:22,420 There wasn't a gate? 117 00:06:22,420 --> 00:06:24,420 No. This is a solid fence all the way around. 118 00:06:24,420 --> 00:06:26,420 See, that's creepy. That gives me the chills. 119 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:29,420 Now, this video has over 5 million hits online. 120 00:06:29,420 --> 00:06:31,420 Wow. 121 00:06:31,420 --> 00:06:33,420 So a lot of people have seen it, but it's never been investigated. 122 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:35,420 This is from a law enforcement officer's car. 123 00:06:35,420 --> 00:06:37,420 I'm sold. 124 00:06:37,420 --> 00:06:39,420 Yeah. 125 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:42,100 I didn't see the gate. 126 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:44,100 I didn't see how it went through that fence. 127 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:46,100 Maybe the fence is ghost. 128 00:06:46,100 --> 00:06:48,100 It's a ghost fence. 129 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:50,100 Ghosts all over. 130 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:52,100 So we have a good witness. 131 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:54,100 We've got an actual physical, tangible location 132 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:56,100 with hardware, the fence, the car, everything that we can do a lot of experiments with. 133 00:07:00,100 --> 00:07:02,100 That's why I think we should go investigate it. 134 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:04,100 I want to go. 135 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:06,100 I would really like to go as well. 136 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:08,100 Looks like we found our first case. 137 00:07:08,780 --> 00:07:10,780 I actually found a pretty interesting case. 138 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:12,780 It takes place in the UK. 139 00:07:12,780 --> 00:07:14,780 A woman named Tanya Pittman. 140 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:16,780 She has kids and her kids keep claiming 141 00:07:16,780 --> 00:07:18,780 that they're hearing noises coming from the bedrooms. 142 00:07:18,780 --> 00:07:20,780 Wait, wait, wait. 143 00:07:20,780 --> 00:07:22,780 From the parents' bedroom? 144 00:07:22,780 --> 00:07:24,780 No, no, from their bedroom. 145 00:07:24,780 --> 00:07:26,780 Okay, gotcha. Continue. 146 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:28,780 I'm sorry. 147 00:07:28,780 --> 00:07:30,780 So one night, her 12-year-old son 148 00:07:30,780 --> 00:07:32,780 hears whistling coming from one of the bedrooms. 149 00:07:32,780 --> 00:07:34,780 He gets freaked out. 150 00:07:34,780 --> 00:07:36,780 He's like, what's going on? 151 00:07:37,460 --> 00:07:39,460 He gets freaked out and he picks up his cell 152 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:41,460 phone, turns on the camera, 153 00:07:41,460 --> 00:07:43,460 runs upstairs and he captures a shadow. 154 00:07:46,460 --> 00:07:48,460 This is our storage. 155 00:07:50,460 --> 00:07:52,460 This is my... 156 00:07:52,460 --> 00:07:54,460 ...tower. 157 00:07:54,460 --> 00:07:56,460 Oh, my God. 158 00:08:04,460 --> 00:08:06,460 Sorry to get off in your business, 159 00:08:07,140 --> 00:08:09,140 but see how it jumps? 160 00:08:09,140 --> 00:08:11,140 Oh, yeah. 161 00:08:11,140 --> 00:08:13,140 I'm just here being reflected on this wall, 162 00:08:13,140 --> 00:08:15,140 instead of saying... 163 00:08:15,140 --> 00:08:17,140 I'm saying that there's a light over here 164 00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:19,140 and there's somebody walking across 165 00:08:19,140 --> 00:08:21,140 out of camera, out of frame, that we can't see, 166 00:08:21,140 --> 00:08:23,140 and it's casting a shadow across here. 167 00:08:23,140 --> 00:08:25,140 It looks like it's coming this way, 168 00:08:25,140 --> 00:08:27,140 but in fact, it's being projected here 169 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:29,140 across this and then against that wall. 170 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:31,140 Do you think there's enough to go on here? 171 00:08:31,140 --> 00:08:33,140 No. 172 00:08:33,140 --> 00:08:35,140 I gotta say no. 173 00:08:35,820 --> 00:08:37,820 I've got some UFO footage 174 00:08:37,820 --> 00:08:39,820 that was shot by Jeff Willis of Arizona. 175 00:08:39,820 --> 00:08:41,820 If you play it, you'll see that there's 176 00:08:41,820 --> 00:08:43,820 some unusual movement of these lights in the sky. 177 00:08:43,820 --> 00:08:45,820 OK. 178 00:08:45,820 --> 00:08:47,820 So why don't you roll it? 179 00:08:47,820 --> 00:08:49,820 Alright, here we go. 180 00:08:49,820 --> 00:08:51,820 So, I think, you know... 181 00:08:51,820 --> 00:08:53,820 Whoa, I'm getting a series of lights right there. 182 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:55,820 I got it, I got it, I got it. 183 00:08:55,820 --> 00:08:57,820 It's moving. 184 00:08:57,820 --> 00:08:59,820 You got it, Pat? 185 00:08:59,820 --> 00:09:01,820 Yeah, yeah. 186 00:09:01,820 --> 00:09:03,820 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 187 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:06,500 Whoa. 188 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:09,500 I just, I was just doing a little bit of research 189 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:11,500 and I found there are a bunch, I mean, 190 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:14,500 a whole lot of eyewitnesses that actually saw this event, 191 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:16,500 none of them could describe what they were. 192 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:18,500 So there's a military base close to this area. 193 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:20,500 Luke Air Force Base, yes. 194 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,500 Well, then how do we know that it's not just some 195 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:25,500 normal flight pattern for some of these planes? 196 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:27,500 It could be, and it could be coincidental, 197 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:30,500 that it happens to show up just when these lights 198 00:09:30,500 --> 00:09:32,500 appeared in the sky. 199 00:09:33,180 --> 00:09:35,180 Some of these sightings have been looked into before 200 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:37,180 and they end up just being military flares. 201 00:09:37,180 --> 00:09:39,180 Is that maybe what we're seeing right here? 202 00:09:39,180 --> 00:09:41,180 As a matter of fact, I got footage 203 00:09:41,180 --> 00:09:43,180 of military flares being dropped. 204 00:09:43,180 --> 00:09:45,180 I want to come up and I want to point out some 205 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:47,180 just very obvious differences here. 206 00:09:47,180 --> 00:09:49,180 So we're gonna hit play and look at the characteristics. 207 00:09:49,180 --> 00:09:51,180 These things drop straight to the ground. 208 00:09:51,180 --> 00:09:53,180 Yeah, it looks nothing like this. 209 00:09:53,180 --> 00:09:55,180 I mean, the gravity just dropped, 210 00:09:55,180 --> 00:09:57,180 even there's a little parachute on them. 211 00:09:57,860 --> 00:09:59,860 They just plummet. 212 00:09:59,860 --> 00:10:01,860 These don't. 213 00:10:01,860 --> 00:10:03,860 Isn't this place called the UFO parking lot? 214 00:10:03,860 --> 00:10:05,860 I never heard that particular one, 215 00:10:05,860 --> 00:10:07,860 but I wouldn't doubt that they would call it that. 216 00:10:07,860 --> 00:10:09,860 The guy who's filming this sounds genuinely excited. 217 00:10:09,860 --> 00:10:11,860 I mean, it doesn't sound like he's faking this. 218 00:10:11,860 --> 00:10:13,860 I'm liking this. 219 00:10:13,860 --> 00:10:15,860 We've got a very compelling video. 220 00:10:15,860 --> 00:10:17,860 We have a credible witness who has a lot of experience 221 00:10:17,860 --> 00:10:19,860 in UFO documentation. 222 00:10:19,860 --> 00:10:21,860 Plus, we have a lot of experience 223 00:10:21,860 --> 00:10:23,860 in UFOs, and we have a lot of experience 224 00:10:23,860 --> 00:10:25,860 in UFOs, and we have a lot of experience 225 00:10:26,540 --> 00:10:28,540 in UFO documentation. 226 00:10:28,540 --> 00:10:30,540 Plus, we have a lot to work with as far as experiments. 227 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:32,540 Jielle and Austin, you come with me to Savannah. 228 00:10:32,540 --> 00:10:34,540 I love it. 229 00:10:34,540 --> 00:10:36,540 We'll do the ghost car investigation 230 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:38,540 and Bill, Larry and Chilan, 231 00:10:38,540 --> 00:10:40,540 you guys head out to Arizona to do these lights. 232 00:10:40,540 --> 00:10:42,540 Sounds good. It's a plan. 233 00:10:42,540 --> 00:10:44,540 All right, let's pack up, huh? 234 00:10:44,540 --> 00:10:46,540 Pack up, guys. All right. 235 00:10:46,540 --> 00:10:48,540 All right. 236 00:10:52,540 --> 00:10:54,540 Coming up on Fact or Faked Paranormal Files. 237 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:57,220 As I turned in, the only thing I see 238 00:10:57,220 --> 00:10:59,220 is tail lights on the other side of the fence. 239 00:10:59,220 --> 00:11:01,220 Whoo! 240 00:11:01,220 --> 00:11:03,220 Four lights appear near these mountains right here. 241 00:11:03,220 --> 00:11:05,220 Begin hyper jump. 242 00:11:05,220 --> 00:11:07,220 Absolutely insane. 243 00:11:07,220 --> 00:11:09,220 Whoo! 244 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:11,220 Oh, my God. 245 00:11:11,220 --> 00:11:13,220 Did you hear that? 246 00:11:13,220 --> 00:11:15,220 Oh! 247 00:11:21,220 --> 00:11:23,220 I'm thinking if we go to Arizona, 248 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:25,900 maybe we could do some experiments. 249 00:11:25,900 --> 00:11:27,900 We have a ghost car in Savannah, Georgia, 250 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:29,900 I think we should go investigate it. 251 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:39,900 We're in Savannah, Georgia, 252 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:41,900 one of the most haunted cities in America. 253 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:43,900 I've seen this video quite a few times now, 254 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:45,900 and it's gonna be the first time 255 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:47,900 that we're gonna be able to meet 256 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:49,900 the actual officer who was in that car. 257 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:51,900 Yeah, it's pretty exciting. 258 00:11:52,580 --> 00:11:54,580 I think there he is right there. 259 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:56,580 Let's do it. 260 00:11:56,580 --> 00:11:58,580 How you doing? 261 00:11:58,580 --> 00:12:00,580 Good. 262 00:12:00,580 --> 00:12:02,580 We are so excited to be here. 263 00:12:02,580 --> 00:12:04,580 What I would love to do 264 00:12:04,580 --> 00:12:06,580 is to take you back to that night, 265 00:12:06,580 --> 00:12:08,580 and I was thinking that maybe you could take us on a ride 266 00:12:08,580 --> 00:12:10,580 and show us the exact route that you guys took. 267 00:12:10,580 --> 00:12:12,580 Love to. 268 00:12:12,580 --> 00:12:14,580 All right. Should we go ride? 269 00:12:14,580 --> 00:12:16,580 Yeah. 270 00:12:19,580 --> 00:12:21,580 So, is this where it started, right here? 271 00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:24,260 Yeah, this is where it actually started. 272 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:26,260 This is where I noticed him weaving in the roads. 273 00:12:26,260 --> 00:12:28,260 You could see him hitting the lane markers 274 00:12:28,260 --> 00:12:30,260 and the fog lights. 275 00:12:30,260 --> 00:12:32,260 Right about here is where I hit the blue lights, 276 00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:34,260 and he hit the gas, and all we went to the races. 277 00:12:38,260 --> 00:12:41,260 Right here is where he actually made a U-turn. 278 00:12:43,260 --> 00:12:46,260 I pulled up into his driver's door. 279 00:12:48,260 --> 00:12:50,260 At that point, he shot on around me, 280 00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:52,940 and it took me a second to get around 281 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:55,940 as he was accelerating up Old Louisville Road here. 282 00:12:57,940 --> 00:12:59,940 So, there was a split second 283 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:01,940 where you don't have him in sight, 284 00:13:01,940 --> 00:13:03,940 and the next thing you know, he's far up the road. 285 00:13:03,940 --> 00:13:05,940 That's correct. 286 00:13:05,940 --> 00:13:08,940 Would you say that he took off at an unusually quick speed? 287 00:13:08,940 --> 00:13:11,940 I was surprised that it was able to accelerate that fast. 288 00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:13,940 We hung the right here on 307, 289 00:13:13,940 --> 00:13:15,940 but when he come around, 290 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:18,620 he's on the right side of the road. 291 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:20,620 And as I turned in, 292 00:13:20,620 --> 00:13:22,620 the only thing I see is tail lights on the other side of the fence. 293 00:13:26,620 --> 00:13:28,620 And I says, no. 294 00:13:28,620 --> 00:13:30,620 He didn't do that, but he did it. 295 00:13:30,620 --> 00:13:33,620 I'd actually like to take a closer look at this fence. 296 00:13:36,620 --> 00:13:38,620 Obviously, like I said, the fence has been changed. 297 00:13:38,620 --> 00:13:40,620 At the time, I didn't have the gate and stuff, 298 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:43,620 but this fence would have been on the backside of this pole. 299 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:47,300 And did you actually come up and inspect these brackets 300 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:49,300 and these ties? 301 00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:52,300 I came up and checked the fence where the car went through, 302 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:54,300 and these were missing. 303 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:56,300 Could you actually tell me 304 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:58,300 that you witnessed him going through the fence? 305 00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:00,300 I can't say I've seen it. 306 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:02,300 I mean, in the paranormal realm, 307 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:05,300 it would either have to be something extremely paranormal happened, 308 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:07,300 or the only other option is that this car 309 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:10,300 had to go under, through, or possibly under the fence. 310 00:14:10,300 --> 00:14:12,300 I mean, I think it's a good idea 311 00:14:12,980 --> 00:14:15,980 to go through or possibly launch over that fence. 312 00:14:15,980 --> 00:14:17,980 Correct. 313 00:14:17,980 --> 00:14:19,980 Well, I think that about does it. 314 00:14:19,980 --> 00:14:21,980 We really appreciate your time. 315 00:14:21,980 --> 00:14:23,980 All right, thank you very much. 316 00:14:23,980 --> 00:14:25,980 Goodbye. 317 00:14:25,980 --> 00:14:27,980 I think we've got two different things going on here, 318 00:14:27,980 --> 00:14:29,980 and one is the very logical, hard tangible stuff 319 00:14:29,980 --> 00:14:31,980 we need to test and the other paranormal stuff. 320 00:14:31,980 --> 00:14:33,980 Right now, I'd like to get back to doing the tangible. 321 00:14:33,980 --> 00:14:35,980 We've got a stunt guy, 322 00:14:35,980 --> 00:14:37,980 and he's going to be setting up 323 00:14:37,980 --> 00:14:39,980 some of these experiments that we talked about. 324 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:41,980 Awesome. 325 00:14:42,660 --> 00:14:44,660 Hey, Michael. 326 00:14:44,660 --> 00:14:46,660 Van, how are you? 327 00:14:46,660 --> 00:14:48,660 Good, good. You ready to do this? 328 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:50,660 We are absolutely ready to play. 329 00:14:50,660 --> 00:14:52,660 So what we got set up here? 330 00:14:52,660 --> 00:14:54,660 We have the officer behind us. 331 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:56,660 He's going to be the chase car. 332 00:14:56,660 --> 00:14:58,660 You've got the roads blocked off. 333 00:14:58,660 --> 00:15:00,660 We do both in all four directions. 334 00:15:00,660 --> 00:15:02,660 So we're just going to leave this parking lot 335 00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:04,660 and do our first U-turn. 336 00:15:04,660 --> 00:15:06,660 And then do some supernatural speeding. 337 00:15:06,660 --> 00:15:08,660 Nice. 338 00:15:08,660 --> 00:15:10,660 Well, Jay-El and I will be using some new radar guns. 339 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:13,340 We'll be testing the speeds further down the road. 340 00:15:13,340 --> 00:15:15,340 We'll see what happens. Cool. 341 00:15:19,340 --> 00:15:21,340 I'm just kidding. That's a bad habit. 342 00:15:21,340 --> 00:15:23,340 Yes. 343 00:15:28,340 --> 00:15:30,340 So we're about ready to start our first experiment, 344 00:15:30,340 --> 00:15:32,340 which is the U-turn experiment. 345 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:34,340 In the ghost car video, 346 00:15:34,340 --> 00:15:36,340 the ghost car takes this U-turn 347 00:15:36,340 --> 00:15:38,340 and takes off 348 00:15:39,020 --> 00:15:41,020 at what some would say is a supernatural speed, 349 00:15:41,020 --> 00:15:44,020 leaving the officer wondering where he went. 350 00:15:44,020 --> 00:15:46,020 So we've got our own stunt car. 351 00:15:46,020 --> 00:15:48,020 Looks almost exactly like our ghost car. 352 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:50,020 And we've got a professional driver 353 00:15:50,020 --> 00:15:52,020 who will be executing these U-turns. 354 00:15:52,020 --> 00:15:54,020 And we have our own chase vehicle, 355 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:56,020 which is a police department vehicle, 356 00:15:56,020 --> 00:15:58,020 which Austin will be riding shotgun. 357 00:15:58,020 --> 00:16:00,020 I've been with Ben and the group from the start, 358 00:16:00,020 --> 00:16:02,020 from the very beginning. 359 00:16:02,020 --> 00:16:04,020 I mean, my background's in biology, 360 00:16:04,020 --> 00:16:06,020 but I'm also a thrill seeker. 361 00:16:06,020 --> 00:16:08,020 I love an adrenaline rush. 362 00:16:08,700 --> 00:16:10,700 I absolutely love it. 363 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:13,700 If our stunt car can duplicate the U-turn 364 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:15,700 and get the same distance away, 365 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:17,700 that would help to go further explain 366 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:19,700 that maybe this wasn't a paranormal event after all. 367 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:25,700 All right, so we're at the shoulder of the road right now. 368 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:27,700 We've got the whole road shut down, cops. 369 00:16:27,700 --> 00:16:29,700 Everybody's at the standstill. 370 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:31,700 And we are ready to do our U-turn at the moment. 371 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:33,700 We're ready to go. 372 00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:35,700 We're ready to go. 373 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:37,700 We're ready to go. 374 00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:40,380 I'm currently riding shotgun 375 00:16:40,380 --> 00:16:42,380 in the front seat of our buddy, Shawn, 376 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:44,380 who's an officer of Garden City Police Department. 377 00:16:44,380 --> 00:16:46,380 We're getting ready to try our first experiment. 378 00:16:46,380 --> 00:16:48,380 My heart's starting to race, blood's starting to boil. 379 00:16:48,380 --> 00:16:50,380 We're gonna be doing a high-speed pursuit, 380 00:16:50,380 --> 00:16:52,380 trying to reenact the exact video that we have. 381 00:16:52,380 --> 00:16:54,380 We have cameras in the car. 382 00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:56,380 We have cameras on the car. 383 00:16:56,380 --> 00:16:58,380 We've got cameras everywhere, seeing if we can get every angle 384 00:16:58,380 --> 00:17:00,380 and prove to see if this is something paranormal 385 00:17:00,380 --> 00:17:02,380 or something that we can make happen. 386 00:17:02,380 --> 00:17:04,380 Michael is gunning to go. 387 00:17:04,380 --> 00:17:06,380 He's ready to do this. 388 00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:09,060 We're gonna get you to the edge, 389 00:17:09,060 --> 00:17:11,060 just in case you've got control. 390 00:17:11,060 --> 00:17:13,060 We're not in the way. 391 00:17:13,060 --> 00:17:15,060 Or so we don't die. 392 00:17:15,060 --> 00:17:17,060 So we don't die. 393 00:17:17,060 --> 00:17:19,060 Yeah. 394 00:17:19,060 --> 00:17:21,060 Yep, we're ready. 395 00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:23,060 MUSIC 396 00:17:23,060 --> 00:17:25,060 And one, two, one. 397 00:17:25,060 --> 00:17:27,060 MUSIC 398 00:17:27,060 --> 00:17:29,060 MUSIC 399 00:17:29,060 --> 00:17:31,060 MUSIC 400 00:17:31,060 --> 00:17:33,060 MUSIC 401 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:35,060 So we're about ready to start our first experiment. 402 00:17:35,740 --> 00:17:38,740 If our stunt car can duplicate the U-turn, 403 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:40,740 maybe this wasn't a paranormal event after all. 404 00:17:40,740 --> 00:17:44,740 And one, two, one, go. 405 00:17:44,740 --> 00:17:46,740 MUSIC 406 00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:48,740 MUSIC 407 00:17:48,740 --> 00:17:51,740 Up to 50 miles an hour now. 408 00:17:51,740 --> 00:17:53,740 I'm really worried that we're not gonna be able to duplicate 409 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:55,740 this disappearing U-turn. 410 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:58,740 We're trying to duplicate some very specific maneuvers, 411 00:17:58,740 --> 00:18:01,740 which makes it very risky and very dangerous. 412 00:18:01,740 --> 00:18:03,740 MUSIC 413 00:18:04,420 --> 00:18:06,420 Is it about how far away you would follow somebody 414 00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:08,420 in a neural position? 415 00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:10,420 Yeah, about this distance. 416 00:18:10,420 --> 00:18:12,420 If you ever lost anybody in a U-turn, 417 00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:14,420 you're just gonna car disappear while making a U-turn. 418 00:18:14,420 --> 00:18:16,420 Uh, once or twice. 419 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:18,420 MUSIC 420 00:18:18,420 --> 00:18:20,420 He's swerving like in the video, hitting 56. 421 00:18:20,420 --> 00:18:22,420 Let's get out of the way. 422 00:18:22,420 --> 00:18:24,420 MUSIC 423 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:27,100 MUSIC 424 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:29,100 MUSIC 425 00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:31,100 MUSIC 426 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:33,100 MUSIC 427 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:35,100 MUSIC 428 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:37,100 That's it. 429 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:39,100 He is definitely out of sight right now. 430 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:41,100 He has nowhere to be seen. 431 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:43,100 We're gonna see if we can catch him. 432 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:45,100 There he is coming out of front. 433 00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:47,100 See, pinches up his tail. 434 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:49,100 I can barely make out a little bit of red. 435 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:51,100 MUSIC 436 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:53,100 This is exactly how it looks in the video. 437 00:18:53,780 --> 00:18:56,780 About this far away, kind of some dramatic driving. 438 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:58,780 Absolutely insane. 439 00:18:58,780 --> 00:19:00,780 MUSIC 440 00:19:00,780 --> 00:19:02,780 CHEERING 441 00:19:02,780 --> 00:19:04,780 All right. 442 00:19:04,780 --> 00:19:06,780 That is what I'm talking about. 443 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:08,780 All right. 444 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:10,780 We seriously looked almost just like the video. 445 00:19:10,780 --> 00:19:12,780 We definitely got the footage we needed. 446 00:19:12,780 --> 00:19:14,780 MUSIC 447 00:19:16,780 --> 00:19:19,780 I mean, you got the T just right. 448 00:19:19,780 --> 00:19:21,780 CHEERING 449 00:19:22,460 --> 00:19:24,460 You're hitting the mic on a dime 450 00:19:24,460 --> 00:19:26,460 and I think we got what we needed from him. 451 00:19:26,460 --> 00:19:28,460 Let's go into the fence. 452 00:19:28,460 --> 00:19:30,460 Let's do the fence. All right. 453 00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:32,460 Let's make an apple fall you there. 454 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:34,460 That is what I'm talking about. 455 00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:36,460 MUSIC 456 00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:40,460 One of the most prevalent theories 457 00:19:40,460 --> 00:19:42,460 is that the car hit a ditch 458 00:19:42,460 --> 00:19:44,460 before getting to the fence. 459 00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:46,460 It somehow launched it up and over it. 460 00:19:46,460 --> 00:19:49,460 Right here, we've got this ramp that's been built up. 461 00:19:50,140 --> 00:19:52,140 And we've got our fence and we're going to see 462 00:19:52,140 --> 00:19:54,140 if we can do it. 463 00:19:54,140 --> 00:19:56,140 The fence is exactly six feet high, 464 00:19:56,140 --> 00:19:58,140 just like our other fence that we had. 465 00:19:58,140 --> 00:20:00,140 And it's about what, 10 feet from the ramp? 466 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:02,140 So Officer Daniels talked about the car 467 00:20:02,140 --> 00:20:04,140 going about 40 miles an hour. 468 00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:06,140 That's what we're going to have Mike do. 469 00:20:06,140 --> 00:20:08,140 He's going to go out, come hit this thing 470 00:20:08,140 --> 00:20:10,140 about 40 miles an hour and hopefully 471 00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:12,140 he's going to clear this thing. 472 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:14,140 MUSIC 473 00:20:14,140 --> 00:20:16,140 Mike, how dangerous is this done like this? 474 00:20:16,140 --> 00:20:18,140 I do have a lucky coin on me. 475 00:20:18,820 --> 00:20:20,820 As long as I've had it on, I've never been hurt. 476 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:22,820 MUSIC 477 00:20:22,820 --> 00:20:24,820 Ready? 478 00:20:24,820 --> 00:20:26,820 Here we go. 479 00:20:26,820 --> 00:20:28,820 MUSIC 480 00:20:28,820 --> 00:20:30,820 MUSIC 481 00:20:30,820 --> 00:20:32,820 MUSIC 482 00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:34,820 MUSIC 483 00:20:34,820 --> 00:20:36,820 MUSIC 484 00:20:36,820 --> 00:20:38,820 MUSIC 485 00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:40,820 Michael, ready in three, two, one. 486 00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:42,820 MUSIC 487 00:20:42,820 --> 00:20:44,820 There he goes. 488 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:47,500 37, 31, 33, 36. 489 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:49,500 MUSIC 490 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:51,500 MUSIC 491 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:53,500 MUSIC 492 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:55,500 MUSIC 493 00:20:55,500 --> 00:20:57,500 MUSIC 494 00:20:57,500 --> 00:20:59,500 Oh, he just made that. 495 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,500 Hey look, he's still alive. 496 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:03,500 I can't believe he made that. He didn't even take the fence out. 497 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:05,500 Wow. Yes! 498 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:07,500 MUSIC 499 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:09,500 MUSIC 500 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,500 MUSIC 501 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:13,500 MUSIC 502 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:16,180 Hey! 503 00:21:16,180 --> 00:21:18,180 Hey Mike! 504 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:20,180 How are you? Are you okay? 505 00:21:20,180 --> 00:21:22,180 I'm good. 506 00:21:22,180 --> 00:21:24,180 You alright? 507 00:21:24,180 --> 00:21:26,180 You flew! 508 00:21:26,180 --> 00:21:28,180 Okay, now that you're finished, 509 00:21:28,180 --> 00:21:30,180 do you think that somebody without all the equipment 510 00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:32,180 and all the safety gear could have gotten over 511 00:21:32,180 --> 00:21:34,180 something like this without getting hurt? 512 00:21:34,180 --> 00:21:36,180 No, they would have definitely gotten hurt. 513 00:21:36,180 --> 00:21:38,180 Okay. 514 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:40,180 Let's get this man out. 515 00:21:40,180 --> 00:21:42,180 Look at this fence guys. 516 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:44,180 Unbelievable. 517 00:21:44,180 --> 00:21:46,180 The fact is that in the original location, 518 00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:48,180 there was a small ditch. 519 00:21:48,180 --> 00:21:50,180 There was nothing comparable to a man-made setup 520 00:21:50,180 --> 00:21:52,180 perfect ramp. 521 00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:54,180 MUSIC 522 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:56,180 MUSIC 523 00:21:56,180 --> 00:21:58,180 MUSIC 524 00:21:58,180 --> 00:22:00,180 I think we've proven it's possible, 525 00:22:00,180 --> 00:22:02,180 but how possible? 526 00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:04,180 Correct? 527 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:06,180 Yeah, I think we need to keep trying a few more tests 528 00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:08,180 because I don't think this is what occurred. 529 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:10,180 MUSIC 530 00:22:11,180 --> 00:22:13,180 So we're here in front of a fence 531 00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:15,180 is almost exactly the same height. 532 00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:17,180 I mean, I'm 6'6". This thing's about 6'2". 533 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:19,180 Same as the old fence we had over there. 534 00:22:19,180 --> 00:22:22,180 And what we're going to do is remove some of the fasteners 535 00:22:22,180 --> 00:22:25,180 on the fence, which Officer Daniel said we're missing. 536 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:28,180 You can see up here where we've got it secured. 537 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:30,180 It's really sturdy, really rigid. 538 00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:33,180 But down on the bottom, we've taken off the bottom 539 00:22:33,180 --> 00:22:35,180 of the fastener arc. 540 00:22:35,180 --> 00:22:37,180 And what we're going to do is bribe the car through it 541 00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:39,180 and hope that the fence will come up 542 00:22:39,180 --> 00:22:41,180 and let the car slide underneath it 543 00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:43,180 and come right back down, just like in the video. 544 00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:45,180 MUSIC 545 00:22:46,180 --> 00:22:49,180 So hopefully he'll hit between 30 and 40 miles an hour 546 00:22:49,180 --> 00:22:51,180 just like he did in the video. 547 00:22:51,180 --> 00:22:53,180 Like I said, there's many variables, 548 00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:55,180 but if we've calculated this correctly... 549 00:22:55,180 --> 00:22:57,180 Well, if he goes straight through it, 550 00:22:57,180 --> 00:23:00,180 we've pretty much debunked the myth of the ghost car, haven't we? 551 00:23:00,180 --> 00:23:03,180 I've been a journalist and a reporter. 552 00:23:03,180 --> 00:23:06,180 I traveled the world with Josh Gates on Destination Truth. 553 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:08,180 What I love about being on this team 554 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:11,180 is that I can really use my skills to get to the bottom 555 00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:14,180 of some of the craziest paranormal cases out there. 556 00:23:14,180 --> 00:23:16,180 Looks like we're about ready to go. 557 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:17,180 All right. 558 00:23:17,180 --> 00:23:19,180 MUSIC 559 00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:27,180 In 3, 2, 1, go. 560 00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:29,180 Here we go. 561 00:23:29,180 --> 00:23:31,180 MUSIC 562 00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:40,180 MUSIC 563 00:23:43,180 --> 00:23:46,180 What we're going to do is bribe the car through it 564 00:23:46,180 --> 00:23:48,180 and hope that the fence will come up 565 00:23:48,180 --> 00:23:50,180 and let the car slide underneath it. 566 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:53,180 3, 2, 1, go. 567 00:23:53,180 --> 00:23:55,180 MUSIC 568 00:23:56,180 --> 00:23:58,180 3, 2, 27. 569 00:23:58,180 --> 00:24:00,180 MUSIC 570 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,180 Oh, my God. 571 00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:12,180 The ghosts were wrong. 572 00:24:14,180 --> 00:24:16,180 All right. 573 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:17,180 Well... 574 00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:18,180 What do we do with that? 575 00:24:18,180 --> 00:24:20,180 I don't know. There goes that theory. 576 00:24:20,180 --> 00:24:22,180 MUSIC 577 00:24:22,180 --> 00:24:25,180 The posts are definitely still in place, 578 00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:29,180 yet the whole top of the fence came off the top wrong. 579 00:24:29,180 --> 00:24:32,180 I honestly did not expect that to happen. 580 00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:36,180 We just watched a stunt car driver, Mike, 581 00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:38,180 in the ghost car take off, 582 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:40,180 hit the fence doing about 25. 583 00:24:44,180 --> 00:24:47,180 However, it did not go really as we had planned. 584 00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:49,180 The whole fence popped off, nothing stayed. 585 00:24:49,180 --> 00:24:51,180 Apparently either the fence wasn't stable enough, 586 00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:54,180 wasn't put together, or who knows, 587 00:24:54,180 --> 00:24:56,180 maybe it's just impossible. 588 00:24:56,180 --> 00:24:58,180 Should we see if it's salvageable? 589 00:24:58,180 --> 00:24:59,180 Absolutely. 590 00:24:59,180 --> 00:25:02,180 OK. You got to hoist it up and then move these. 591 00:25:02,180 --> 00:25:04,180 MUSIC 592 00:25:04,180 --> 00:25:07,180 We are going to hoist this fence back up 593 00:25:07,180 --> 00:25:09,180 and attempt the experiment one more time. 594 00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:12,180 But Ben, I think this time what we might want to do 595 00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:16,180 is actually have four fence fasteners instead of two. 596 00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:17,180 I agree. 597 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:22,180 Because we don't know how much strength the old fence had. 598 00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:24,180 Maybe that'll keep it from the whole thing coming off. 599 00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:27,180 Right. I think two on each end this time, instead of one. 600 00:25:28,180 --> 00:25:32,180 So what we realized is what made this fence fall 601 00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:35,180 is these top caps popped off. 602 00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:38,180 And that happened because we took off too many of these fasteners. 603 00:25:38,180 --> 00:25:41,180 So what we're going to do is go back and put a few more of these on 604 00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:43,180 and hopefully it'll keep everything intact. 605 00:25:43,180 --> 00:25:45,180 Right about here, do you think? 606 00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:49,180 Um, maybe a little bit higher even. 607 00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:55,180 I think we're good to go. 608 00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:56,180 Yeah. 609 00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:57,180 So I'm going to go another run. 610 00:25:57,180 --> 00:25:58,180 All right. 611 00:25:58,180 --> 00:26:00,180 MUSIC 612 00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:03,180 This is our last try to get the ghost car to go through the fence. 613 00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:05,180 If we can't pull this off and debunk it, 614 00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:07,180 then I do not have a reasonable explanation 615 00:26:07,180 --> 00:26:09,180 on how this car got through the fence. 616 00:26:09,180 --> 00:26:12,180 Maybe the whole ghost car event was paranormal. 617 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:14,180 MUSIC 618 00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:21,180 Michael, ready? 619 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:24,180 In three, two, one. 620 00:26:24,180 --> 00:26:26,180 MUSIC 621 00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:32,180 MUSIC 622 00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:34,180 There it is. 623 00:26:34,180 --> 00:26:35,180 I think we may have done it. 624 00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:37,180 I think this is a key piece of evidence right here. 625 00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:39,180 This could be our answer. 626 00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:43,180 So, I couldn't believe it. 627 00:26:43,180 --> 00:26:44,180 No. Yeah. 628 00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:46,180 We have a lot of notes to compare. 629 00:26:46,180 --> 00:26:48,180 So how was it? 630 00:26:48,180 --> 00:26:49,180 So we just got back from Georgia. 631 00:26:49,180 --> 00:26:50,180 Well, tell us about it. 632 00:26:50,180 --> 00:26:51,180 So what happened? 633 00:26:51,180 --> 00:26:52,180 It's up. 634 00:26:52,180 --> 00:26:55,180 So our third experiment was to try to get our car to go through the fence. 635 00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:57,180 Watch what happens. 636 00:26:57,180 --> 00:26:59,180 Michael, ready? 637 00:26:59,180 --> 00:27:02,180 In three, two, one. 638 00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:04,180 MUSIC 639 00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:15,180 Wow. 640 00:27:15,180 --> 00:27:16,180 It's good. 641 00:27:16,180 --> 00:27:17,180 Wow. 642 00:27:17,180 --> 00:27:19,180 Oh, wow. 643 00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:20,180 Wow. 644 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:21,180 You believe that? 645 00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:22,180 It opens like a theater curtain. 646 00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:23,180 Wow. 647 00:27:23,180 --> 00:27:24,180 Oh, my gosh. 648 00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:28,180 And goes down just in time to not even detect any movement from it. 649 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:29,180 Here we go. 650 00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:30,180 Side by side. 651 00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:32,180 This final turn, he turns left. 652 00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:34,180 The fence goes up. 653 00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:36,180 MUSIC 654 00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:37,180 It's down. 655 00:27:37,180 --> 00:27:38,180 There's the fence. 656 00:27:38,180 --> 00:27:40,180 Completely intact, not even moving. 657 00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:43,180 By the time the officer turns around, Officer Daniel sees the fence, 658 00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:46,180 just as it comes down and stops moving, 659 00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:49,180 we catch the taillights at about the same point. 660 00:27:49,180 --> 00:27:51,180 Tell me that's not what happened. 661 00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:52,180 That's it. 662 00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:55,180 Is there any question that that's, you know, what happened that night? 663 00:27:55,180 --> 00:27:58,180 I don't think there's anything ghostly about that. 664 00:27:58,180 --> 00:28:03,180 All together, you would say there was nothing paranormal about this case. 665 00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:04,180 Finally an answer. 666 00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:05,180 Thanks to you guys. 667 00:28:05,180 --> 00:28:08,180 Ghost car, case closed. 668 00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:10,180 MUSIC 669 00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:18,180 So the Savannah ghost car, nothing paranormal about that one. 670 00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:21,180 Bill, how did the Arizona lights case go? 671 00:28:21,180 --> 00:28:24,180 Well, with Arizona lights, we had compelling video, 672 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:26,180 and it seemed an incredible witness. 673 00:28:26,180 --> 00:28:30,180 And we came up with some great ideas on how we create the footage. 674 00:28:30,180 --> 00:28:32,180 Whoa, I'm getting a series of lights right there. 675 00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:34,180 I got it. I got it. I got it. 676 00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,180 It's moving. You got it, Pat? 677 00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:37,180 Yeah. 678 00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:38,180 Damn it, damn it, damn it. 679 00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:39,180 Here's what happened. 680 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:41,180 MUSIC 681 00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:49,180 Jeff. 682 00:28:49,180 --> 00:28:50,180 Hey, how you doing? 683 00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:51,180 I'm doing well. How about you? 684 00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:52,180 Yeah, good. 685 00:28:52,180 --> 00:28:56,180 How are you telling me about the circumstances that you were in when you shot that video? 686 00:28:56,180 --> 00:29:01,180 Me and my friend, we decided we were going to do a video on UFOs documentary. 687 00:29:01,180 --> 00:29:06,180 Actually, went over here, near these mountains right here, at about 7 o'clock, 688 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:08,180 and then all of a sudden four lights appeared, 689 00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:14,180 and the light on the far right disappeared and skipped in front of the remaining three. 690 00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:18,180 Let me ask you, I know that we're really close to Lucas Air Force Base. 691 00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:22,180 Is there any chance at all that those lights that you saw could be military flares? 692 00:29:22,180 --> 00:29:24,180 The next day, I called Luke Air Force Base, 693 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:26,180 and they said not only were they not dropping flares, 694 00:29:26,180 --> 00:29:28,180 but they had no planes up at the time. 695 00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:32,180 Is there any way that we can take this camera from you? 696 00:29:32,180 --> 00:29:33,180 Yeah. 697 00:29:34,180 --> 00:29:36,180 Jeff, great meeting you. 698 00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:37,180 Thanks for coming out. 699 00:29:37,180 --> 00:29:42,180 Right now, we're heading to the area that Jeff will have recorded the video that brought us into this case. 700 00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:43,180 We're going to set up a base camp, 701 00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:47,180 and we're going to conduct a series of experiments to see if we can recreate what we saw on tape. 702 00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:58,180 Let me grab the gear bag here. 703 00:29:58,180 --> 00:29:59,180 Here are the lasers. 704 00:29:59,180 --> 00:30:00,180 Thank you. 705 00:30:00,180 --> 00:30:02,180 What we're going to do is just set up a pane of glass, 706 00:30:02,180 --> 00:30:04,180 and we're going to shoot lasers in it, 707 00:30:04,180 --> 00:30:07,180 and show that anyone can actually do this very simple experiment, 708 00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:11,180 and put lights in the sky at a specific time of day, and record it. 709 00:30:11,180 --> 00:30:13,180 I'm a TV journalist, and I love photography, 710 00:30:13,180 --> 00:30:17,180 which comes in really handy when I'm analyzing photos and videos during my paranormal research. 711 00:30:17,180 --> 00:30:19,180 Now, I'm a natural born skeptic, 712 00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:24,180 and I think that my experience will help me determine if these lights are an optical hoax or the real deal. 713 00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:26,180 That's going to be the camera's point of view. 714 00:30:26,180 --> 00:30:29,180 And so right over that second peak, in between the first peak and the second peak, 715 00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:32,180 we want to see those lights going on and off, on and off. 716 00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:34,180 I'm a video specialist during the day, 717 00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:37,180 but my real love is paranormal research, 718 00:30:37,180 --> 00:30:39,180 which I've been doing for 15 years. 719 00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:41,180 My background does help me catch hoaxes, 720 00:30:41,180 --> 00:30:44,180 like some people think in this case, jumping lights. 721 00:30:44,180 --> 00:30:48,180 We think about the height of the glass. 722 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,180 It's like, it can be from here to here. 723 00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:52,180 We don't want this glass to slip. 724 00:30:52,180 --> 00:30:54,180 We don't have another pane, so it's... 725 00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:55,180 Don't tell me that. 726 00:30:55,180 --> 00:30:56,180 Grab that end. 727 00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:57,180 I'll grab this end. 728 00:30:57,180 --> 00:30:59,180 Okay, very good. 729 00:31:01,180 --> 00:31:03,180 Wow, guys, this is some setup. 730 00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:05,180 I think we should hunker down for a little while. 731 00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:07,180 Let the sun dip down below the horizon, 732 00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:09,180 and let's resume the experiment. 733 00:31:14,180 --> 00:31:16,180 The ambulance looks just like what we have in just video. 734 00:31:16,180 --> 00:31:18,180 It's like we've got just a amount of ambient light. 735 00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:20,180 It looks just like what we have in just video. 736 00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:22,180 We only have a small window of opportunity. 737 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:23,180 No pun intended. 738 00:31:23,180 --> 00:31:25,180 I'm going to turn on the camera so we can go ahead 739 00:31:25,180 --> 00:31:29,180 and try to get the same angle that we saw in just video on May 12th. 740 00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:30,180 I have always loved the paranormal. 741 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:34,180 I carry that love for the paranormal all the way into college where I'm at then. 742 00:31:34,180 --> 00:31:36,180 He asked me to join the group as the effects specialist, 743 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:38,180 and it was a no-brainer. 744 00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:39,180 Easiest decision I've ever made. 745 00:31:39,180 --> 00:31:41,180 We're only going to have a couple of minutes for this. 746 00:31:41,180 --> 00:31:45,180 I'm going to use the green wavelength, which is the more powerful of the two 747 00:31:45,180 --> 00:31:46,180 between the red and the green. 748 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:47,180 All right. 749 00:31:47,180 --> 00:31:48,180 You ready, Larry? 750 00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:49,180 Yeah. 751 00:31:49,180 --> 00:31:52,180 Okay, three, two, one, on. 752 00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:02,180 What we're going to do is just set up a pane of glass, 753 00:32:02,180 --> 00:32:04,180 and we're going to shoot lasers in it 754 00:32:04,180 --> 00:32:08,180 and show that anyone can actually do this very simple experiment and record it. 755 00:32:08,180 --> 00:32:09,180 All right. 756 00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:10,180 You ready, Larry? 757 00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:17,180 Three, two, one, on. 758 00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:21,180 All right. 759 00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:22,180 Can you see it? 760 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:23,180 I see it, actually. 761 00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:24,180 Very well. 762 00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:25,180 Let me look through your viewfinder. 763 00:32:25,180 --> 00:32:26,180 Oh, yeah, there it is. 764 00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:27,180 All right. 765 00:32:27,180 --> 00:32:28,180 Look at that. 766 00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:29,180 There it is. 767 00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:30,180 There it is. 768 00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:31,180 It looks really convincing. 769 00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:32,180 There it is. 770 00:32:32,180 --> 00:32:35,180 With both sides of the pane, it's making two different orbs. 771 00:32:35,180 --> 00:32:36,180 It is. 772 00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:37,180 It's like independent. 773 00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:38,180 Look at that. 774 00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:39,180 Now it's three. 775 00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:40,180 There is there anything? 776 00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:41,180 It's there. 777 00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:42,180 It actually works. 778 00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:43,180 It is. 779 00:32:43,180 --> 00:32:44,180 It's working. 780 00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:45,180 It looks like a movie. 781 00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:47,180 I can't get them to move at the same. 782 00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:49,180 I have to, like, keep it out of line. 783 00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:51,180 Otherwise, this happened. 784 00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:54,180 See how it doesn't happen in the video. 785 00:32:58,180 --> 00:32:59,180 You know what? 786 00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:01,180 The motion is just not right. 787 00:33:01,180 --> 00:33:04,180 It's the pattern that I'm having the problem with. 788 00:33:04,180 --> 00:33:07,180 If it's flaring, that's not what we saw in the video. 789 00:33:07,180 --> 00:33:11,180 The laser in the glass has got similarities to the video. 790 00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:13,180 The thing is, we just can't nail the movement down. 791 00:33:13,180 --> 00:33:16,180 We can't get that pattern to replicate what we had in just video. 792 00:33:16,180 --> 00:33:18,180 I think we should just move on to the next experiment. 793 00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:20,180 I want to get the balloons out. 794 00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:21,180 All right. 795 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:25,180 All right, grab that toolbox. 796 00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:28,180 We have just enough time to set this up, so let's jump on this. 797 00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:31,180 We have six balloons that inflate to six feet. 798 00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:34,180 The balloon is going to hoist the lamp like this. 799 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:36,180 Once it's inflated, it'll be like that. 800 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:38,180 There is a dimmer panel. 801 00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:39,180 That's it right there. 802 00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:43,180 It's standard dimmers, but we can turn each light on and off. 803 00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:46,180 Hopefully, it'll look like hyper-jumping, because one light will go off, 804 00:33:46,180 --> 00:33:48,180 and the other one goes on on the other side. 805 00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:53,180 We're going to get the balloons inflated one by one. 806 00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:54,180 You guys are going to send them up. 807 00:33:54,180 --> 00:33:57,180 Another person that's going to be like you is going to be controlling the lights. 808 00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:58,180 Turn them on and off. 809 00:33:58,180 --> 00:34:00,180 I'll be at the vantage point. 810 00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:04,180 And if it's the right point in the horizon, and I'm seeing it, and I'm taping it, 811 00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:09,180 and it looks similar to just video, we've got a possible explanation. 812 00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:10,180 Okay. 813 00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:11,180 Are we ready? 814 00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:16,180 I think that's six feet. 815 00:34:16,180 --> 00:34:18,180 So the zip tie is going to fasten the hand. 816 00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:20,180 It's going to go on the neck itself. 817 00:34:20,180 --> 00:34:21,180 I can see your hand shaking. 818 00:34:21,180 --> 00:34:23,180 Nice and tight. Don't get your finger. 819 00:34:23,180 --> 00:34:25,180 Now we're going to attach the lantern. 820 00:34:25,180 --> 00:34:27,180 So it's going to go here. 821 00:34:29,180 --> 00:34:30,180 All right, very good. 822 00:34:30,180 --> 00:34:31,180 We have a lot of work to do. 823 00:34:31,180 --> 00:34:32,180 We've got a lot more wiring. 824 00:34:32,180 --> 00:34:33,180 We've got to find our position in the field. 825 00:34:33,180 --> 00:34:35,180 We've got to jump out of the control. 826 00:34:35,180 --> 00:34:36,180 We'll get these things wired up. 827 00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:37,180 Okay. 828 00:34:43,180 --> 00:34:46,180 Snap that together and pull spider. 829 00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:53,180 So we have six spools, all of them 500 feet, that we're going to be able to lift up over that for horizon. 830 00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:59,180 I'm going to head over to the vantage point because when I look at the video, 831 00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:01,180 it was right above the horizon where the lights were. 832 00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:05,180 We're hoping that these balloons would disappear against the darkened sky. 833 00:35:05,180 --> 00:35:08,180 And I will only see the lanterns that the balloons have hoisted up. 834 00:35:08,180 --> 00:35:16,180 Fortunately, I have Jeff's original camera and I'll be able to record using his exact camera that he used to record in 2005. 835 00:35:19,180 --> 00:35:22,180 The balloons are set in the same pattern as we saw with all the orb lights. 836 00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:23,180 Awesome. 837 00:35:23,180 --> 00:35:26,180 All right, let's go weed out master control and when we get the OK, we'll turn these guys on. 838 00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:27,180 Let's do it. 839 00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:28,180 All right. 840 00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:33,180 Looking good. 841 00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:35,180 Hey guys, heads up. 842 00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:39,180 The ambient lighting is just about where it was on Jeff's video. 843 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,180 The lighting is good for the next probably three minutes. 844 00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:48,180 Begin hyper jump. 845 00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:49,180 Begin hyper jump. 846 00:35:49,180 --> 00:35:50,180 Go. 847 00:35:59,180 --> 00:36:02,180 Hey Bill, are you seeing UFO magic up there? 848 00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:04,180 Actually, it's looking really good. 849 00:36:10,180 --> 00:36:13,180 See, I think we can conclude this phase of the experiment. 850 00:36:13,180 --> 00:36:15,180 We just launched the balloons. 851 00:36:15,180 --> 00:36:19,180 It looked OK, but it wasn't exactly the same as Jeff's original video. 852 00:36:19,180 --> 00:36:21,180 It's time for us to do a nighttime investigation. 853 00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:25,180 We're going to put some cameras on the ground as well as one pointing at the sky. 854 00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:29,180 We hope to catch something as it happens or find some trace evidence. 855 00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:31,180 Jelon, Larry, excellent work. 856 00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:51,180 This is the spot that all the reports about the UFO activity have been centered around. 857 00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:53,180 We've got the four IR cameras set up. 858 00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:55,180 We're covering the whole mountain range. 859 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,180 You're going to stay here and monitor all the video. 860 00:36:58,180 --> 00:36:59,180 So keep your eyes on the screen. 861 00:36:59,180 --> 00:37:01,180 If you see something, you've got to let us know. 862 00:37:01,180 --> 00:37:04,180 Some of the videos, it seems like the crafts have been coming low 863 00:37:04,180 --> 00:37:09,180 or in the cases where they feel that flares have fallen 864 00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:10,180 perhaps contact at the ground. 865 00:37:10,180 --> 00:37:12,180 So we're going to go look for trace evidence. 866 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:13,180 Sounds good. 867 00:37:13,180 --> 00:37:14,180 OK, let's make this count. 868 00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:15,180 All right. 869 00:37:23,180 --> 00:37:30,180 I'm hearing something over there. 870 00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:33,180 Did you hear that? 871 00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:39,180 Larry, have you seen anything at all on the cameras? 872 00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:43,180 As of right now, I mean, I see the star in the sky here. 873 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:45,180 No sign of anything unusual. 874 00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:48,180 I cannot see anything. 875 00:37:49,180 --> 00:37:54,180 There's something unsettling about the atmosphere. 876 00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:57,180 I'm showing you light over there. 877 00:37:57,180 --> 00:38:00,180 That's the second time I've heard something. 878 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:11,180 I am hearing something over there. 879 00:38:11,180 --> 00:38:17,180 Bill DeLarry, keep your eyes peeled for the left side of the mountain range, please. 880 00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:21,180 We keep hearing some sort of movement out here. 881 00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:23,180 What is it exactly that you're hearing? 882 00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:28,180 It's kind of like a low humming noise and then a thump. 883 00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:32,180 I'm looking at the camera that you're in front of right now, camera one. 884 00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:36,180 I cannot see anything in the sky as for the ground. 885 00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:38,180 My vantage point is very limited. 886 00:38:38,180 --> 00:38:41,180 I cannot see anything. 887 00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:47,180 Something that's closer to this mountain range, 888 00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:53,180 the more we're hearing this humming sound and these thuds. 889 00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:58,180 I didn't enjoy that sound. 890 00:38:58,180 --> 00:39:00,180 Bill, come in. 891 00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:03,180 I've been looking at the star in the sky for a while now, but it's moving. 892 00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:04,180 It's definitely not a star. 893 00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:06,180 It's going up and down, back and forth. 894 00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:08,180 Look up there. 895 00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:15,180 Just to make sure you're seeing what I'm seeing. 896 00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:16,180 We do. 897 00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:18,180 We see it with the naked eye right here. 898 00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:20,180 No camera lens, no zoom, nothing. 899 00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:22,180 We can see it. 900 00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:24,180 I'm not sure if you can see it. 901 00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:26,180 I'm not sure. 902 00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:28,180 I'm not sure. 903 00:39:28,180 --> 00:39:30,180 I'm not sure. 904 00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:32,180 I'm not sure. 905 00:39:32,180 --> 00:39:34,180 I'm not sure. 906 00:39:34,180 --> 00:39:36,180 I'm not sure. 907 00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:38,180 I'm not sure. 908 00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:42,180 I don't know what this is. 909 00:39:46,180 --> 00:39:48,180 Oh my God. 910 00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:51,180 It's moving back and forth, back and forth. 911 00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:53,180 Very erratic for any light in the sky. 912 00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:56,180 It's definitely not a satellite. 913 00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:59,180 It's moving almost away from us. 914 00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:03,180 It's gone. 915 00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:06,180 At first, it was moving at such a steady pace 916 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:08,180 that I really did think it was a satellite. 917 00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:11,180 But now in watching it, it did then cut left 918 00:40:11,180 --> 00:40:13,180 and now it's going right again. 919 00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:15,180 That's not how a satellite is going over it. 920 00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:17,180 It's not a star. It's not a planet. 921 00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:20,180 Not of its moon, at that pace. 922 00:40:20,180 --> 00:40:23,180 I don't know of any aircraft that moves in a zigzag. 923 00:40:23,180 --> 00:40:25,180 So we've been out here for hours. 924 00:40:25,180 --> 00:40:28,180 I mean, we finally have been able to capture something. 925 00:40:28,180 --> 00:40:30,180 It hasn't been on the ground like they were hoping 926 00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:32,180 it's actually been in the sky. 927 00:40:32,180 --> 00:40:34,180 This is more than I could have asked for. 928 00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:36,180 I think it's more than any of us could ask for. 929 00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:39,180 We've witnessed some lights in the sky that defy explanation. 930 00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:42,180 At this time of the night, there shouldn't be any planes 931 00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:44,180 in the area that we know of. 932 00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:46,180 The movement of these lights are different from any satellite 933 00:40:46,180 --> 00:40:48,180 or object in the sky that we know of. 934 00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:50,180 We need to get back to the situation room 935 00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:52,180 and examine the video we've captured 936 00:40:52,180 --> 00:40:54,180 to try to decide what it is. 937 00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:02,180 We had an interview with Jeff Willis. 938 00:41:02,180 --> 00:41:04,180 We took the recording and had it analyzed 939 00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:07,180 with the same technology used by law enforcement agencies. 940 00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:09,180 So I'm actually going to pull up the results of that 941 00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:11,180 and I want you guys to take a look. 942 00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:14,180 If they did, I won't like to know how they did it 943 00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:17,180 because I have no idea how that can be done. 944 00:41:17,180 --> 00:41:19,180 So as you can see here, it says truth. 945 00:41:19,180 --> 00:41:22,180 He's obviously telling us that this is the most compelling 946 00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:25,180 evidence he has seen or recorded. 947 00:41:25,180 --> 00:41:28,180 With some great video evidence to inspire us, 948 00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:30,180 we had a couple of experiments that we had hopes for. 949 00:41:30,180 --> 00:41:32,180 One of them was the laser experiment. 950 00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:34,180 It looked good, but it didn't work. 951 00:41:34,180 --> 00:41:36,180 Couldn't get the motion. 952 00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:42,180 We moved on to balloons with electric lanterns, 953 00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:44,180 and although we were able to get the motion, 954 00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:46,180 we couldn't get the altitude. 955 00:41:46,180 --> 00:41:48,180 That wasn't convincing either. 956 00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:52,180 Now, since it was nighttime, 957 00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:54,180 we realized we were going to just hunker down 958 00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:56,180 and conduct a nighttime investigation. 959 00:41:56,180 --> 00:41:58,180 It was during this nighttime investigation, 960 00:41:58,180 --> 00:42:01,180 we had hoped that we could find maybe some trace evidence 961 00:42:01,180 --> 00:42:03,180 or record something ourselves, 962 00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:05,180 and it was then we caught something in the sky. 963 00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:07,180 He caught something on tape. 964 00:42:07,180 --> 00:42:09,180 I believe if you take a look at the clip we have queued, 965 00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:11,180 you'll see for yourself. 966 00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:13,180 All right, let's see what you got. 967 00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:21,180 Whoa! 968 00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:23,180 Look at that speed. 969 00:42:23,180 --> 00:42:25,180 That thing is hauling. 970 00:42:25,180 --> 00:42:27,180 You sure that's not like a helicopter? 971 00:42:27,180 --> 00:42:29,180 It was completely silent. 972 00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:31,180 It's moving far too fast to be an aircraft 973 00:42:31,180 --> 00:42:33,180 of any sort that we know of, 974 00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:35,180 and it's definitely not a satellite. 975 00:42:35,180 --> 00:42:37,180 Satellites, sometimes you can see with the naked eye, 976 00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:39,180 but they move very slow across the sky. 977 00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:41,180 It was going in one direction, you were watching, 978 00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:43,180 and you were watching, and all of a sudden, 979 00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:45,180 it just would cut back in the other direction. 980 00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:47,180 I mean, especially at that velocity, like Bill said, 981 00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:49,180 I don't know of any aircraft that's capable of doing something like that. 982 00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:51,180 The simple speed of this thing 983 00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:53,180 made it where we can only say 984 00:42:53,180 --> 00:42:55,180 that there's mysterious UFOs 985 00:42:55,180 --> 00:42:57,180 over the sky of Arizona, 986 00:42:57,180 --> 00:42:59,180 and we happen to get it on tape. 987 00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:03,180 So what do you guys think? 988 00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:05,180 It looks to me like this place is a hotbed 989 00:43:05,180 --> 00:43:07,180 of paranormal activity. 990 00:43:07,180 --> 00:43:09,180 We couldn't replicate the original video, 991 00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:11,180 and we caught something on camera, we can't identify. 992 00:43:11,180 --> 00:43:13,180 This video breathes new life into the notion 993 00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:15,180 that there is UFO activity over Phoenix. 994 00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:17,180 We can all see that it's a flying object 995 00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:19,180 that's unidentifiable. 996 00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:21,180 There's something out there, we don't know what it is. 997 00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:23,180 You did some great experiments, 998 00:43:23,180 --> 00:43:25,180 and you contributed to this phenomenon 999 00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:27,180 of the Phoenix lights and exploring what is going on there. 1000 00:43:27,180 --> 00:43:29,180 Really great job, guys.